diff --git a/demos/tiny_wip/Makefile b/demos/tiny_wip/Makefile
index efbc4c4d..61eeb794 100644
--- a/demos/tiny_wip/Makefile
+++ b/demos/tiny_wip/Makefile
@@ -8,7 +8,8 @@ LINKER_SCRIPTS = ../../linker_scripts/
 all:	tiny_demos.dsk
 
 tiny_demos.dsk:	HELLO CHEVRON_17 CIRCUIT_17 TIGER_22 \
-	NOISY_TIGER_35 ANGLE_SONG_30 \
+	NOISY_TIGER_35 ANGLE_SONG_30 RAMP_34 \
+	MAD_COMPUTE_31 \
 	TEST
 	cp $(EMPTYDISK) tiny_demos.dsk
 	$(DOS33) -y tiny_demos.dsk SAVE A HELLO
@@ -17,6 +18,8 @@ tiny_demos.dsk:	HELLO CHEVRON_17 CIRCUIT_17 TIGER_22 \
 	$(DOS33) -y tiny_demos.dsk BSAVE -a 0xE7 TIGER_22
 	$(DOS33) -y tiny_demos.dsk BSAVE -a 0xE7 NOISY_TIGER_35
 	$(DOS33) -y tiny_demos.dsk BSAVE -a 0xE7 ANGLE_SONG_30
+	$(DOS33) -y tiny_demos.dsk BSAVE -a 0xE7 RAMP_34
+	$(DOS33) -y tiny_demos.dsk BSAVE -a 0xE7 MAD_COMPUTE_31
 	$(DOS33) -y tiny_demos.dsk BSAVE -a 0xE7 TEST
 
 ###
@@ -64,6 +67,24 @@ ANGLE_SONG_30:	angle_song_30.o
 angle_song_30.o:	angle_song_30.s
 	ca65 -o angle_song_30.o angle_song_30.s -l angle_song_30.lst
 
+###
+
+RAMP_34:	ramp_34.o
+	ld65 -o RAMP_34 ramp_34.o -C $(LINKER_SCRIPTS)/apple2_e7_zp.inc
+
+ramp_34.o:	ramp_34.s
+	ca65 -o ramp_34.o ramp_34.s -l ramp_34.lst
+
+###
+
+MAD_COMPUTE_31:	mad_compute_31.o
+	ld65 -o MAD_COMPUTE_31 mad_compute_31.o -C $(LINKER_SCRIPTS)/apple2_e7_zp.inc
+
+mad_compute_31.o:	mad_compute_31.s
+	ca65 -o mad_compute_31.o mad_compute_31.s -l mad_compute_31.lst
+
+
+
 
 ###
 
@@ -78,6 +99,7 @@ test.o:	test.s
 clean:	
 	rm -f *~ *.o *.lst HELLO \
 		CHEVRON_17 CIRCUIT_17 TIGER_22 \
-		NOISY_TIGER_35 ANGLE_SONG_30 \
+		NOISY_TIGER_35 ANGLE_SONG_30 RAMP_34 \
+		MAD_COMPUTE_31 \
 		TEST *.zip
 
diff --git a/demos/tiny_wip/NOTES b/demos/tiny_wip/NOTES
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..06b3e34e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/demos/tiny_wip/NOTES
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+mad_computer: there are a few untapped paramaters to make other noises
diff --git a/demos/tiny_wip/angle_song_30.s b/demos/tiny_wip/angle_song_30.s
index 646cdb53..0d1e8a5d 100644
--- a/demos/tiny_wip/angle_song_30.s
+++ b/demos/tiny_wip/angle_song_30.s
@@ -1,6 +1,4 @@
-; 17B interesting XDRAW pattern
-
-; This one looks vaguely like a chevron shape
+; 30B Angle Song -- XDRAW pattern plus some "music"
 
 ; by Vince `deater` Weaver / dSr
 
@@ -17,7 +15,7 @@ XDRAW0		=	$F65D
 XDRAW1		=	$F661
 HPLOT0          =       $F457
 
-chevron17:
+angle_song:
 
 	; we load at zero page $E7 which is HGR_SCALE
 	; this means the scale is $20 (JSR)
@@ -39,75 +37,29 @@ chevron17:
 				; after Y= orig X/7
 				; A and X are ??
 
-
-	; aa = (orange)tiger stripes
-	; 55 = purple
-	; 2a = green
-;	lda	#$2a
-;	jsr	$F3F4
-
 tiny_loop:
 
-	; e2/e3
-	; 0.. 63?
-	; 0 = maze
-	; 1 = scaly
-	; 2 = ??
-	; 3 = tower plates
-	; 4 = bubbles
-	; 5 = strings
-	; 6 = circuit board	*
-	; 7 = noodles
-	; 8 = pickup sticks
-	; 9 = meh
-	; 10 = interesting
-	; 11 = meh
-	; 12 = static
-	; 13 = weave
-	; 14 = core
-	; 15 = masts		*
-	; 16 = maze again
-	; 17 = spots		*
-	; 18 = bamboo		*
-	; 19 = mesh
-	; 20 = coils
-	; 21 = sunspots
-	; 22 = gridy
-	; 23 = dominos
-	; 24 = chevron		**
-	; 25 = borg
-	; 26 = grid
-	; 27 = plants
-	; 28 = spaces
-	; 29 = ridges
-	; 30 = net
-	; 31 = odd
-	; 32 = maze again
-
-	; e2/e5
-	; e3 looks best?
-	; a0 interesting, green train
-
-;	inc	rot_smc+1	; broken glass
-
-;	bit	$C030
-
-
+	; generate some sound
 
  ; try flipping X/Y
 
-;        ldx     $26
-        ldx     $D4
+;	ldx	$26
+	ldx     $D4		; HGR_E
 outer_delay:
-        bit     $C030
-        ldy     $27
+	bit	$C030		; click speaker
+	ldy	$27
+
+;	lda	$27		; for lower beeps?
+;	asl
+;	tay
+
 
 inner_delay:
-        dey
-        bne	inner_delay
+	dey
+	bne	inner_delay
 
-        dex
-        bne     outer_delay
+	dex
+	bne	outer_delay
 
 
 
diff --git a/demos/tiny_wip/mad_compute_31.s b/demos/tiny_wip/mad_compute_31.s
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..da6671b9
--- /dev/null
+++ b/demos/tiny_wip/mad_compute_31.s
@@ -0,0 +1,81 @@
+; 31B Mad Compute
+
+; for Lovebyte 2025
+
+; by Vince `deater` Weaver / dSr
+
+; pattern $E2E3
+; scale 5 rotate 0 = mad_compute
+;         rotate 2 = fish scales / apple panic
+;         rotate 10 = alert noise
+;         rotate 14 = feather
+
+
+; zero page locations
+GBASL		=	$26
+GBASH		=	$27
+HGR_SCALE	=	$E7
+HGR_COLLISIONS	=	$EA
+
+; ROM locations
+HGR2		=	$F3D8
+HPOSN		=	$F411
+XDRAW0		=	$F65D
+XDRAW1		=	$F661
+HPLOT0          =       $F457
+
+mad_compute:
+
+	; $05 is ORA IMM
+
+	.byte	$5		; scale in $E7
+	nop
+
+	jsr	HGR2		; Hi-res, full screen		; 3
+				; Y=0, A=0 after this call
+
+	; A and Y are 0 here.
+	; X is left behind by the boot process?
+
+	; set GBASL/GBASH
+	; we really have to call this, otherwise it won't run
+	; on some real hardware depending on setup of zero page at boot
+
+	jsr	HPLOT0		; set screen position to X= (y,x) Y=(a)
+				; saves X,Y,A to zero page
+				; after Y= orig X/7
+				; A and X are ??
+
+
+tiny_loop:
+
+
+; generate some sound
+
+	ldx	$D4		; HGR_E
+outer_delay:
+	bit	$C030		; click speaker
+	ldy	$27
+
+inner_delay:
+	dey
+	bne	inner_delay
+
+	dex
+	bne	outer_delay
+
+	txa
+
+;	lda	#$0		; ROT=$0
+
+	ldy	#$E2		;
+	ldx	#$E3		; Y=$E2
+				; X=$E3
+
+	jsr	XDRAW0		; XDRAW, A =ROTATE, X/Y = point to shape
+				; Both A and X are 0 at exit
+				; Z flag set on exit
+				; Y varies
+
+	beq	tiny_loop	; bra
+
diff --git a/demos/tiny_wip/ramp_34.s b/demos/tiny_wip/ramp_34.s
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..73e95972
--- /dev/null
+++ b/demos/tiny_wip/ramp_34.s
@@ -0,0 +1,137 @@
+; 17B interesting XDRAW pattern
+
+; This one looks vaguely like a circuit board
+
+; by Vince `deater` Weaver / dSr
+
+; zero page locations
+GBASL		=	$26
+GBASH		=	$27
+HGR_SCALE	=	$E7
+HGR_COLLISIONS	=	$EA
+
+; ROM locations
+HGR2		=	$F3D8
+HPOSN		=	$F411
+XDRAW0		=	$F65D
+XDRAW1		=	$F661
+HPLOT0          =       $F457
+
+circuit17:
+
+	; we load at zero page $E7 which is HGR_SCALE
+	; this means the scale is $20 (JSR)
+
+	; $20 $D8 $F3
+
+	lda	#5
+	sta	$E7
+
+	jsr	HGR2		; Hi-res, full screen		; 3
+				; Y=0, A=0 after this call
+
+	; A and Y are 0 here.
+	; X is left behind by the boot process?
+
+	; set GBASL/GBASH
+	; we really have to call this, otherwise it won't run
+	; on some real hardware depending on setup of zero page at boot
+
+	jsr	HPLOT0		; set screen position to X= (y,x) Y=(a)
+				; saves X,Y,A to zero page
+				; after Y= orig X/7
+				; A and X are ??
+
+
+	; aa = (orange)tiger stripes
+	; 55 = purple
+	; 2a = green
+;	lda	#$2a
+;	jsr	$F3F4
+
+tiny_loop:
+
+	; e2/e3
+	; 0.. 63?
+	; 0 = maze
+	; 1 = scaly
+	; 2 = ??
+	; 3 = tower plates
+	; 4 = bubbles
+	; 5 = strings
+	; 6 = circuit board	*
+	; 7 = noodles
+	; 8 = pickup sticks
+	; 9 = meh
+	; 10 = interesting
+	; 11 = meh
+	; 12 = static
+	; 13 = weave
+	; 14 = core
+	; 15 = masts		*
+	; 16 = maze again
+	; 17 = spots		*
+	; 18 = bamboo		*
+	; 19 = mesh
+	; 20 = coils
+	; 21 = sunspots
+	; 22 = gridy
+	; 23 = dominos
+	; 24 = chevron		**
+	; 25 = borg
+	; 26 = grid
+	; 27 = plants
+	; 28 = spaces
+	; 29 = ridges
+	; 30 = net
+	; 31 = odd
+	; 32 = maze again
+
+	; e2/e5
+	; e3 looks best?
+	; a0 interesting, green train
+
+;	inc	rot_smc+1	; broken glass
+
+;	bit	$C030
+
+; generate some sound
+
+ ; try flipping X/Y
+
+;       ldx     $26
+        ldx     $D4             ; HGR_E
+outer_delay:
+        bit     $C030           ; click speaker
+        ldy     $27
+
+;       lda     $27             ; for lower beeps?
+;       asl
+;       tay
+
+
+inner_delay:
+        dey
+        bne     inner_delay
+
+        dex
+        bne     outer_delay
+
+
+
+rot_smc:
+	lda	#$6		; $6
+
+				; ROT=$C6
+
+	ldy	#$E2		;
+	ldx	#$E3		; Y=$E2
+				; X=$E3
+
+	jsr	XDRAW0		; XDRAW, A =ROTATE, X/Y = point to shape
+				; Both A and X are 0 at exit
+				; Z flag set on exit
+				; Y varies
+
+	beq	tiny_loop	; bra
+
diff --git a/demos/tiny_wip/test.s b/demos/tiny_wip/test.s
index 646cdb53..37e76af6 100644
--- a/demos/tiny_wip/test.s
+++ b/demos/tiny_wip/test.s
@@ -1,6 +1,10 @@
-; 17B interesting XDRAW pattern
+; test
+
+; scale 5 rotate 0 = mad_compute
+;         rotate 2 = fish scales / apple panic
+;	  rotate 10 = alert noise
+;	  rotate 14 = feather
 
-; This one looks vaguely like a chevron shape
 
 ; by Vince `deater` Weaver / dSr
 
@@ -17,12 +21,15 @@ XDRAW0		=	$F65D
 XDRAW1		=	$F661
 HPLOT0          =       $F457
 
-chevron17:
+test:
 
-	; we load at zero page $E7 which is HGR_SCALE
-	; this means the scale is $20 (JSR)
+	; $05 is ORA IMM
 
-	; $20 $D8 $F3
+	.byte	$5
+	nop
+
+;	lda	#5
+;	sta	$E7		; scale
 
 	jsr	HGR2		; Hi-res, full screen		; 3
 				; Y=0, A=0 after this call
@@ -40,81 +47,25 @@ chevron17:
 				; A and X are ??
 
 
-	; aa = (orange)tiger stripes
-	; 55 = purple
-	; 2a = green
-;	lda	#$2a
-;	jsr	$F3F4
-
 tiny_loop:
 
-	; e2/e3
-	; 0.. 63?
-	; 0 = maze
-	; 1 = scaly
-	; 2 = ??
-	; 3 = tower plates
-	; 4 = bubbles
-	; 5 = strings
-	; 6 = circuit board	*
-	; 7 = noodles
-	; 8 = pickup sticks
-	; 9 = meh
-	; 10 = interesting
-	; 11 = meh
-	; 12 = static
-	; 13 = weave
-	; 14 = core
-	; 15 = masts		*
-	; 16 = maze again
-	; 17 = spots		*
-	; 18 = bamboo		*
-	; 19 = mesh
-	; 20 = coils
-	; 21 = sunspots
-	; 22 = gridy
-	; 23 = dominos
-	; 24 = chevron		**
-	; 25 = borg
-	; 26 = grid
-	; 27 = plants
-	; 28 = spaces
-	; 29 = ridges
-	; 30 = net
-	; 31 = odd
-	; 32 = maze again
 
-	; e2/e5
-	; e3 looks best?
-	; a0 interesting, green train
+; generate some sound
 
-;	inc	rot_smc+1	; broken glass
-
-;	bit	$C030
-
-
-
- ; try flipping X/Y
-
-;        ldx     $26
-        ldx     $D4
+	ldx	$D4		; HGR_E
 outer_delay:
-        bit     $C030
-        ldy     $27
+	bit	$C030		; click speaker
+	ldy	$27
 
 inner_delay:
-        dey
-        bne	inner_delay
+	dey
+	bne	inner_delay
 
-        dex
-        bne     outer_delay
+	dex
+	bne	outer_delay
 
 
-
-rot_smc:
-	lda	#$D8		; $18, $58, $98, $D8
-
-				; ROT=$D8
+	lda	#$10		; ROT=$0
 
 	ldy	#$E2		;
 	ldx	#$E3		; Y=$E2